When Ariana Grande discovered she was to play Glinda within the film “Wicked,” she made a vow.
“I love her so much,” she informed director Jon M. Chu via tears on a video name in 2021. “I’m gonna take such good care of her.”
Grande made good on that promise. However the place co-star Cynthia Erivo appears more likely to entice awards buzz for the deeply emotional “Defying Gravity,” Grande’s chops, comedic and musical, are most evident in “Popular.” What’s been carried out for many years onstage with simply two beds has been supersized for the display, remodeled into a particularly technical, satisfyingly theatrical, seven-minute set piece, with Grande sliding throughout the ground, dancing on a banister and swinging from a chandelier — all whereas singing stay. By the tip of this expertly whimsical show, Elphaba has develop into unequivocally drawn to Glinda, as has the viewers.
Whereas she’s sometimes showcased her comedy chops as host of “Saturday Night Live” or impersonating celebrities on late-night reveals, Grande’s efficiency as Glinda hearkens again to the main women of Hollywood’s Golden Age musical period — probably to the tune of an Oscar nomination.
The crew behind the quantity spoke to The Occasions about how the onscreen rendition of “Popular” got here collectively, from the artistic bond it cast between Erivo and Grande to the delicate nod to the originator of Glinda, Kristin Chenoweth.
Jon M. Chu (director): The stress was on for “Popular.” That’s the one everybody’s watching and considering, “All right, Ari, let’s see what you got.”
You possibly can inform in her audition that she had Glinda instinctively in her, possibly not but the Glinda you see within the film. I believed I may need to information her slightly bit, however then, on the primary day of rehearsals, she arrived as Glinda. She walked in another way, her voice was totally different. I felt like I had met Glinda in actual life, and that the present was primarily based off of this lady! She’s by no means led a film earlier than — how can an individual this inexperienced come into this and be that constant and so concerned?
Alice Brooks (cinematographer): It was phenomenal to see her rework. Arriving in London for 18 weeks of prep, she had her brown hair and her Ariana Grande look. Week after week, it simply slowly modified.
Christopher Scott (choreographer): All her leaning — that was positively not choreographed, she discovered that. I bear in mind seeing it develop. She’s very intuitive, she’s continuously constructing this character, practising it and feeling the room, and if we’re laughing, she’s like, “Noted.”
Chu: The very first thing we shot was the brand new dorm room scene the place she and Elphaba transfer in. Her delight when she says, “I so enjoy air,” on this transatlantic method — all of us checked out one another like, she’s a golden-age film star, that is loopy! After which she simply leaned into it.
Elphaba (Cynthia Erivo) and Glinda (Ariana Grande) develop into true mates within the “Popular” scene of “Wicked.”
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Winnie Holzman (present’s ebook author and movie co-writer): In early variations of the present, I wrote dialogue scenes of Glinda presenting Elphaba to her mates after a makeover. Like a second out of “Clueless” of, “Here she is, come on out!” That concept ended up being crystallized right into a track, and Stephen [Schwartz] introduced it to an entire different degree.
Stephen Schwartz (composer-lyricist): Within the spirit of being open to new issues for the film, my music crew and I believed, let’s refresh the rhythm. Let’s, possibly, I don’t know, hip-hop it up slightly bit. Ariana stated, “Absolutely not, don’t do it. I want to be Glinda, not Ariana Grande playing Glinda.”
Brooks: “Popular” is the primary track we shot. The problem was that we wished this enormous, grand quantity, however we’re on this very tight, intimate dorm room — our smallest set by far. One evening, I awoke abruptly and thought, the solar must at all times rise for Glinda and set for Elphaba. So “Defying Gravity” is one lengthy sundown, and “Popular” is one lengthy dawn. We put a skylight within the dorm’s dome ceiling so the solar might be our highlight.
Paul Tazewell (costume designer): We see them of their nightwear for “What Is This Feeling?” however “Popular” is a special type of second, a lot lighter and extra enjoyable. I designed this pink, dotted peignoir with spiraling circles out of ruffles — a reference to what Glinda wears within the stage musical — with a delicate teddy beneath and customized embroidered sneakers with toes that flip up simply barely. It’s Glinda’s model of Hollywood glamour, it’s setting her as much as be cute and flirty and frivolous and playful within the track.
“It’s Glinda’s version of Hollywood glamour,” stated Paul Tazewell of making a nightwear search for Ariana Grande for “Popular.”
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Brooks: After they each lie down and have a look at one another, Ariana seems proper into digital camera and Cynthia seems proper again into digital camera at her. We play with breaking the fourth wall so much on this film, moments the place they simply spike the lens and it connects them in a method that’s surprising. I don’t suppose we actually understood how efficient it’s till it acquired edited collectively.
Chu: The chandelier was an enormous feat. She’s leaping very excessive onto that to spin round, and he or she virtually kicked a stunt man within the face at one level. We needed to have an precise human being up on the highest for security causes, in any other case she’d need to be harnessed and we’d have to chop that complete factor up [in post-production].
Scott: That shot of her little pitter patter together with her toes — I bear in mind having her discover how she was going to stroll in that area, and he or she simply did the foot one time, and we’re like, “Perfect, keep it.” That was the spirit of it, we’d discover issues within the room after which we’d roll with it.
Brooks: [The first time she sings “You will be … popular”] is a dolly push with these excellent stops; we had been capable of do dolly pictures and crane pictures by quickly eradicating components of the set. In any other case, our Steadicam operator Karsten Jacobsen has an unbelievable dance background; he began his profession as a manufacturing assistant on a dance competitors present, and when their Steadicam operator acquired harm, they’re like “Put this rig on!” I had him be taught all of the choreography and rehearse with Ariana on our plywood mock-up set in order that the digital camera might be utterly choreographed too.
Chu: I first had a model the place Glinda and Elphaba go into her closet and get misplaced on this pink world the place she turns a nook, after which one other nook and one other — like, how f— large is that this closet? However [producer] Marc [Platt] stated, “I don’t know if we should go fantasy like that. Remember, Glinda doesn’t have magic, so it’s confusing.”
Okay, what if all the luggage we’ve been seeing this complete time had been truly her closet, and also you simply didn’t understand it but? So then it turned a particularly enormous technical feat to make this closet come to life — grown males in small areas pulling doorways and making issues open on the proper time, devices that unfold remotely with batteries and cords. That mirror is a really heavy piece of equipment, as a result of it has to bend backwards so she will stroll on it. That was at all times scary; even in rehearsals, I used to be at all times hesitant. If she steps on these lights, she cuts her foot.
Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande created the shoulder transfer Elphaba and Glinda do in a mirror throughout “Popular.”
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Scott: That nice little shoulder transfer within the mirror they do collectively — you wouldn’t suppose to place any type of duo choreography on this, it’s not a duet in that sense. However Ari and Cynthia simply did it collectively and stated to me, “This is the moment, watch this.” I feel it got here from them being so linked as artists.
Chu: Cynthia was like, “I don’t want to just sit here and stare at her.” If that scene on the Ozdust modified all the things, and within the subsequent scene, Elphaba tells Glinda her story, then “Popular” is nearly a cementing of their friendship. So when Cynthia does the little kick proper after Ari, they’re taking part in, they’re bonding. After all, you’ve gotten large, large moments on this quantity, however it’s the little issues that make you are feeling like these characters are actually changing into mates.
Scott: This complete “communicators” [motion where Grande raises her arms], that physicality was her paying homage to Kristin Chenoweth in a method. I used to be so grateful for that, to have an actor who has that a lot love and look after not simply the character she’s taking part in, however the entire “Wicked” legacy.
Chu: Ari actually owned the area — each time she moved, she knew what her intention was, she lived in that physicality, leaping on the banister and kicking up her leg. And sliding on the ground round Cynthia felt like probably the most pure factor on this planet.
Tazewell: I feel that that’s what’s so irreverent about it. You’ve acquired this lovely, delicate factor that’s often worn by any person who’s attempting to be as glamorous as attainable, after which she decides that she’s gonna crawl on the ground or cling from the chandelier.
Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande filmed hours of Glinda’s magic makes an attempt for “Popular.”
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Brooks: We shot that wand joke for 5 hours. Jon wished her to have completely each second to be humorous, and he or she simply stored getting funnier and funnier. After which [editor] Myron [Kerstein] will get the footage, and he’s like, “How am I supposed to edit this when it’s all amazing?” I feel he had like 17 totally different variations of the way it was gonna go.
Scott: I by no means laughed tougher in my life. Rehearsing together with her, day by day was hysterical. You lookup and everybody’s laughing so exhausting and Ari’s make-up is working down her face as a result of she’s been crying laughing. I swear it felt like I used to be working with the modern-day Lucille Ball. And I do know we hear so much, however that’s what it felt like. Simply how intelligent and sensible she is, and the way her comedy is so humorous as a result of it’s considerate.
Brooks: Jon wished this film to have an previous Hollywood really feel; he wished it to really feel timeless and chic and romantic. And my purpose was that it might be the best love story ever informed between these two greatest mates. So this second within the mirror — when Glinda tells Elphaba she’s lovely, after which she sees herself as lovely for the primary time — is the peak of that connection.
Schwartz: They had been forged individually, however what luck that these two ladies have such chemistry collectively. With out that, they’d individually have been nice, however the emotion within the film wouldn’t fairly have been there.
Brooks: It was a problem to gentle them collectively as a result of one lady is inexperienced and in black for many of the film, and the opposite has blond hair and in gentle pinks. And I didn’t wish to depend on shade corrections separating them, I actually wished all of it to be in digital camera, with all the main points of their costumes and make-up too. It took a very long time to determine it out [with our other departments] in order that they may each be in the identical body and each look equally as attractive.
“My goal was that it would be the greatest love story ever told between these two best friends,” stated cinematographer Alice Brooks of Glinda (Ariana Grande) and Elphaba (Cynthia Erivo).
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Schwartz: I had this concept for a brand new vocal ending. Ariana was slightly hesitant about it, however I informed her that if I had considered it for the unique present, that is how it might have been. As soon as she was reassured that this new little bit of music was popping out of character, she was on board.
Chu: We nonetheless didn’t suppose we had been going to incorporate it, however then we noticed [production designer] Nathan Crowley’s lovely hallway and we’re like, that is the house run hit. Then we informed Ari, “You’re going to dance and we’re not going to cut. You’re going to be completely out there, vulnerable, for everybody to see.”
Scott: I knew she had a musical theater background, plus what she’s been doing within the pop world, so I actually didn’t maintain again with any motion as a result of I knew she was totally succesful. However that top kick within the hallway — you may’t know any person can do this till they do it. She was messing round and freestyling, after which she virtually kicked her face. I’m like, “Are you kidding me? You’ve been holding out on me!” We instantly put it in.
Holzman: It actually looks like a woman simply having enjoyable. I feel a part of it’s how a lot this character has meant to her, and this sense that it’s not simply one other job, it’s not only a film. It is a second when she’s entering into her future.
Marc Platt (producer): She was crying after we completed filming it as a result of she was so completely happy. For those who look intently when she’s dancing round that hallway, you may actually see the real pleasure on her face and it’s wonderful. Actually, it’s excellent.