Within the Oscar-season finale of The Envelope video podcast, we sit down with Colman Domingo, lead actor nominee for “Sing Sing.”
Washington: Hiya and welcome to the season finale of “The Envelope.” Kelvin Washington, Mark Olsen, Yvonne Villarreal. Trying ahead to this. We’re going to have some Oscar conversations right here, after all, to get to that. And with that, I’m going to begin with you, Mark. We all know there are issues that sort of lead as much as it, that we will say there’s a development. There are some, , predictors the place we will sort of see the place this factor goes. What are we? What’s the newest?
Mark Olsen: Effectively, it’s attention-grabbing. As a lot as this has been felt like an unsettled, unsure yr, we now have had some, like, precursor awards, and I believe issues have undoubtedly began to settle somewhat bit. Considerably unusually, each the Administrators Guild and the Producers Guild gave out their awards on the identical night time so that folks have been hustling from one present to the following and the movie “Anora” gained at each of these awards. Sean Baker, the director, gained on the Administrators Guild after which the movie, additionally produced by Sean Baker, gained on the PGAs. It’s humorous. Again in September, for those who made a listing and mentioned, “What do you think is going to win?” You’d have mentioned, “Oh, probably ‘Anora,’ I think ‘Anora’s’ looking good.” After which we confuse issues. We get all topsy-turvy, and also you get on the curler coaster of awards season, and we make it extra sophisticated than it must be. And we’ve now ended up again at “Anora,” the place we have been within the first place.
Washington: Simply go proper again to the place we began. I swing to you, Yvonne. These are the precursors Mark was speaking about. What about simply your dream state of affairs? Perhaps it’s a movie, perhaps it’s a director, perhaps it’s an actor, actress that you simply simply say, “I would love for them to get a win here.”
Villarreal: I’m going to go exterior the principle classes, if that’s OK.
Washington: Sure! That is your dream.
Villarreal: It’s my dream. I really feel for Diane Warren. This lady has been nominated 16 instances. Granted, I’m not a music individual, so I can’t actually inform you this music actually stands out greater than the others. However she’s nominated for the sixteenth time for her music “The Journey” on Tyler Perry’s “The Six Triple Eight.” And I simply really feel like give her the due.
Olsen: She did get an honorary Oscar for a number of years in the past, so she has a statue.
Villarreal: It’s my dream, Mark, so lay off! OK. Who’s yours?
Olsen: I believe mine truly could be Edward Norton, supporting actor for “A Complete Unknown,” taking part in Pete Seeger. As a result of doesn’t Edward Norton appear to be a kind of individuals that ought to have an Oscar? And he doesn’t. He’s been nominated earlier than. And likewise, personally, I’m a giant fan of the movement image “A Real Pain.” I just like the actor Kieran Culkin in “A Real Pain.” I get aggravated when individuals win an excessive amount of and it will get locked in too early, and we’ve seen him give the enjoyable speech and every part. And so I believe the shock of Edward Norton, I would love for him to have an Oscar — I believe that’s the place I’m going.
Villarreal: I additionally felt like that efficiency, it was so calm and understated, and he made me go away that movie being like, “I need to be like that more.”
Washington: Have you ever been doing that?
Villarreal: No.
Washington: We’ve obtained time. It’s early within the yr.
Villarreal: After the podcast is over. Season finale, I will be calm once more.
Washington: For me, you all went somewhat off the overwhelmed path, if you’ll. Mine is tremendous chalky, however Cynthia Erivo as a result of —
Villarreal: Oh!
Washington: Maintain on.
Villarreal: I’m in settlement!
Washington: twentieth individual to win an EGOT. I assumed that’d be superior.
Villarreal: I’m considering, “Why didn’t I think of that?”
Washington: I’ll stick with you. You’ve gotten, after all, Colman Domingo, “Sing Sing.” Acquired an opportunity to converse with him after we did a roundtable earlier. He’s nice. He’s superior. That is sort of an awesome season for him.
Villarreal: The movie follows a gaggle of males enrolled in a jail theater program, and Colman is up for lead actor for his efficiency as Divine G, a person that was wrongfully convicted and actually takes on this management position within the theater program. He’s very very like I used to be as a child: When there’s a gaggle undertaking, you need to be the chief and actually information individuals. And he comes into somewhat little bit of resistance there. However it’s a extremely nice efficiency. It’s his second nomination for lead actor. The final one was for Netflix’s “Rustin” final yr, the place he performed civil rights activist Bayard Rustin. So it was a extremely enjoyable dialog. I’ll say we each wore black, and one in every of us wore it higher than the opposite. And I believe you may guess who that was.
Washington: You probably did it.
Villarreal: No. Not me. Not me. The person can put on — what’s it, the Canadian tuxedo? Is that what it’s known as? Does it nonetheless apply when it’s black denim?
Washington: I don’t know. I really feel prefer it’s usually blue. However don’t ask me.
Villarreal: Effectively, he’s creating one thing else as a result of it appears to be like actually good. However it was a enjoyable dialog.
Washington: He can do no mistaken with vogue. Right here he’s, Colman Domingo with “Sing Sing” and Yvonne speaking to him.
Colman Domingo with Clarence Maclin in “Sing Sing.”
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Villarreal: Colman, thanks a lot for becoming a member of us.
Domingo: It’s good to be right here.
Villarreal: I sort of really feel like we’re on a “Real Housewives” reunion. I do know you watch “Real Housewives.” Don’t assume I don’t know that.
Domingo: [Laughs] I’m ready for “[Real Housewives of] Atlanta” to return again as a result of I believe it’s a kind of belongings you like to observe simply because there’s all the time some drama. There’s all the time some she mentioned, she mentioned. And I don’t know. It’s just a bit senseless.
Villarreal: Look, I lengthy for the day the place you get the inspiration to develop one in every of their tales right into a movement image, as a result of I do know you write and direct.
Domingo: Hear, there’s sufficient materials. There’s all the time materials. There’s materials that you simply want they didn’t have. You’re like, “Save yourself,” ?
Villarreal: Effectively, congratulations are so as. That is your second consecutive yr being nominated for finest actor. That is in your efficiency in “Sing Sing,” final yr it was for “Rustin.” Have been there any classes discovered from final yr that you simply utilized to the way to navigate, or perhaps take pleasure in, the method this yr? Like, “I’m going to take up space” or “I’m going to go up to Meryl Streep if I see her.”
Domingo: Nothing like that. However I believe that I simply naturally attempt to be current and benefit from the second and the place I’m and never let or not it’s concerning the precise award. The concept of being feted for the work that you simply care about and being within the second, being current. I really feel like that’s one thing I navigated fairly nicely final yr, and this yr I believe I’m much more conscious about ensuring that I relaxation. I get up early within the morning.
Villarreal: 4 a.m., guys.
Domingo: 4 a.m. That’s “me” time. So earlier than I come on to all these items, I obtained to simply have the ability to get up early. I like watching the dawn. I am going for somewhat stroll round my property.
Villarreal: You break down your bins to recycle.
Domingo: I broke down my bins to recycle immediately. They have been all stacked up since Christmas, so I used to be simply slicing bins, essentially the most mundane stuff. But in addition, if you try this, it’s like you might have one thing to do at residence. I ended by a nursery and purchased ferns as a result of I wished to plant some ferns. I didn’t get an opportunity to plant them but, however they’re there. I do issues like that.
Villarreal: Do you journal?
Domingo: No, I don’t journal.
Villarreal: I all the time am curious — typically I take into consideration the work that I do and the those that I meet, and I’m like, “Why am I not documenting this?” And I believe for you, to take a look at all of the work you’re doing, the individuals you’re collaborating with, do you ever assume, “I should maybe write some of this down?”
Domingo: My supervisor says I ought to preserve a journal and write these items down, however I believe I’ve a superb reminiscence. And now beginning to perceive why I’m not retaining a journal is as a result of I wish to be within the second, be current, which is why I’m not somebody who paperwork numerous issues with numerous images both. I’ll assume, “Aw, I should take this and capture this,” however I simply need to be current, be there and kind of take snapshots with my thoughts. And I believe, and I hope, that I can keep in mind every part once I determine to ultimately write all these items down and these experiences. As a result of I’m a playwright. I just like the lens of wanting again at a second and it turning into your personal in technicolor, and your personal perspective, and never the best way it felt if you’re truly feeling it.
Villarreal: Is there a second that stands out from these previous few months within the lead-up to the Oscars? For me, it’s seeing the friendship developed between you and Kieran [Culkin]. I don’t know if there’s one thing else for you that stands out.
Domingo: Hear, that’s a spotlight. I really feel like attending to know Kieran and attending to know Demi [Moore], Mikey [Madison]. That’s the enjoyment of this — all the brand new comrades that you simply meet and also you admire their work. Earlier than we did any of the roundtables, I made positive I watched everybody’s movies so I can truly, once I see them within the room, I can speak about them. And in order that’s been the enjoyment. But in addition the friendships that I established even earlier than, like with Bradley Cooper, the individuals who come out and stand for you and amplify your work. Bradley, Andrew Garfield. I’ve made some actual good brothers and sisters on this trade. And it’s good to see once they step up they usually simply say, “Hey, I want to tell everybody about your work in the film.” That feels good. So you’re feeling such as you’re doing it with a neighborhood and never simply by yourself.
Villarreal: That’s good. Effectively, I do know with “Sing Sing,” there wasn’t precisely a script that they approached you with.
Domingo: No, there was no script.
Villarreal: Greg Kwedar, the director, got here to you and mentioned, “Read this Esquire article,” or perhaps you requested for it. What that’s like? I learn the article and I do know what spoke to me. And I ponder for you, as not solely an actor however a author and director, what’s that course of like for you?
Domingo: Effectively, we made it in a really natural approach. I learn the article and it actually spoke to me, particularly the person tales about these males and the way they got here to theater and the way theater was doing one thing for them that was providing some catharsis and a few moments of change and true rehabilitation in some ways. I used to be fascinated by that. And I wished to assist inform this in a movie setting, particularly after we drilled down that it’s nearly a friendship greater than anything. It’s not this jail drama, it’s not struggling, all these tropes. It’s one thing distinctive and actually displaying the opportunity of the human spirit if you pour artwork and love and humanity and light-weight into it. So, I simply thought that was nice.
We did numerous work on Zoom, truly. We truly obtained collectively on Zooms, and we talked about what we have been concerned about. They set me up with Clarence Maclin, my co-star, and we talked about what’s attention-grabbing to us as males, concerning the course of, about loving Shakespeare. Greg and Clint [Bentley, the film’s screenwriter] would go off and write and are available again and current some scenes to me. We’d learn them, speak concerning the scenes, speak about battle, speak about how we have to dial issues up. Clarence would share issues from his lived expertise of being incarcerated. And I might share what I do know as an artist and as a maker of movie, tv and theater. We created this hybrid and simply gave every part that we might. The cool factor is I used to be requested to convey extra than simply the position of actor, however to convey all of the multihyphenate elements of me to the method. It’s been a program that was established to assist the inhabitants with administration abilities, and it’s become one thing a bit extra, I don’t know, great, as a result of it helps individuals get extra in contact with their emotions and capable of course of and really transfer by means of and actually get some rehabilitation.
Villarreal: Did you discover any parallels or similarities to what introduced you to theater with what introduced these males?
Domingo: Yeah.
Villarreal: Inform me about that.
Domingo: I used to be all the time a shy child and never widespread. I come from a really working-class household. And when I discovered theater once I was 19 years previous at Temple College, simply taking an appearing class as an elective, it gave me a voice. As a result of I, truly, I don’t assume I had a voice there. And it gave me some objective. You’re making a neighborhood, and also you’re doing one thing and constructing collectively. [There were] all these abilities that I noticed I used to be drawn to. And likewise, I really like the analysis side of it. I really like historical past. I really like the deep dive. And so I felt like I discovered a spot for me to belong. And I believe numerous these males discovered that — too a lot of them say that they discovered it a lot later than they hoped or wished as a result of it wasn’t supplied to them once they have been youthful. They usually mentioned that maybe some missteps, some errors might not have occurred. So that they had this basis. And that’s precisely what I do know. Theater can appear trivial to individuals, individuals standing onstage and emoting not directly, however it does a lot for an individual.
Every time I might train, I might ask college students to return in and present me their monologue, after which I might redo their monologue with them. And I’ve had so many breakthroughs as a trainer. I had this younger lady are available, and I’d say, “Give me some monologues.” And he or she’s like, “Yeah, I’m going to do this monologue from Neil LaBute’s ‘Fat Pig.’” Nice. And he or she was large woman. However I met her earlier than, and she or he was vivacious and humorous and attention-grabbing. And I used to be like, “Huh, why did you choose that monologue?” And he or she mentioned, “I think that’s the way the industry would see me.” And I mentioned, “That’s interesting because I see you as a queen. I see you as playing Juliet. I see you as all these things.” And he or she cried. I cried. All of us cried. And I mentioned, “You have to dictate who you are and find your voice and not let other people tell you who you are.” As a trainer, I might inform my college students, “If I give you skills to be an actor, that’s great. But if I give you skills to find your voice, that’s even better.”
Villarreal: What was that have like, taking that appearing class as somebody that [is shy]? I’m painfully shy. I used to cover behind my mother [when I was little] at each household perform. However once I do my work, speaking to individuals such as you, I really feel like I’m carrying a masks, like I’m a superhero and permits me to do it. What do you keep in mind clicked for you in that class the place you’re like, “This is unlocking something for me”?
Villarreal: That’s nonetheless me.
Domingo: I really feel like I’m a reformed introvert. I really feel like I understand how to do it. However at residence, I’m fairly quiet, truly. I’m all the time in my workplace and studying and doing different issues, as a result of that’s the introvert. However I understand how to decorate it up and get on the market now as a result of I knew that’s additionally one thing I wanted to be taught to do. My finest is once I’m in a big surroundings and simply being one-on-one with someone and I really feel extra like myself. However it’s virtually like a masks that you need to placed on to navigate this world. It’s helpful.
Villarreal: It’s bizarre too, as a result of individuals will assume, “Is this really you then, when we’re out doing what we’re doing, or is this a facade?” However it’s only a completely different aspect of you.
Domingo: Folks all the time assume that I wish to be out on a regular basis. And truly, I don’t.
Villarreal: You need to be residence watching “Housewives.”
Domingo: I believe I’ve a restricted bandwidth for lots of —
Villarreal: Chaos?
Domingo: Yeah, perhaps that’s it. Folks don’t even know. I can go to a celebration and be the middle of that occasion. However they don’t even know that I’m solely there for 10 minutes. However I am going in there, and I make an awesome impression, and I do the factor, and I dance about round room. After which I pull the Irish goodbye and I’m out. Folks by no means know once I go away. I’m normally like, “I’ve got to go take this call at … home.” And I am going.
Villarreal: In “Sing Sing,” you play a prisoner at Sing Sing Correctional Facility who’s actually taking over a management position on this theater program. [The film] incorporates the lives of actual prisoners. Your character relies on an actual alumnus of this system, John “Divine G” Whitfield. What was that have like? What questions have been they asking you? What questions have been you asking them? And the way did it enrich you as a performer when that point was over?
Domingo: The gorgeous factor is that all of us decided to make it very natural. I believe we have been enriching one another simply from the soar from our Zoom conferences. I assumed it was so admirable what they have been doing and the work that was specified by that Esquire journal article. And once I obtained to satisfy them, I simply wished to satisfy them the place they have been. I didn’t need to ask what they did or how their lives have been inside — that wasn’t truly necessary to me. I wished to know: Who’re they now and what are they prepared to share simply by attending to know me? And I really feel the identical approach. I instructed them what we have been concerned about, simply the best way we’d get if obtained collectively after we first have a espresso, and we simply speak and get to know one another. So I really feel like we simply shaped a brotherhood and a bond fairly shortly.
And I knew that I needed to set up an surroundings the place they will thrive. These are grown males who’re being thrust into this movie surroundings, who’ve had minimal expertise on this, however they’ve a love and keenness for theater. And so I wished to put a basis for them to say, “You can play, and this can be whatever you want it to be. And all it requires is what the program required of you, which is to be vulnerable and be open and — something that I was very clear about — to be tender.” These guys wouldn’t say tenderness was part of their evolution. However it was. When you need to stand and be naked in your soul and take care of previous trauma, placing your self and your story into one other individual’s story, it requires a way of vulnerability and tenderness. Particularly if you’re in a really harmful container, like a maximum-security jail. So, I believe it enriched all of us.
I do know that I invited my finest good friend, Sean San José, to be part of the movie. He performs Mike Mike. And my different finest good friend, Sharon Washington, performs the parole board listening to officer. I knew that I wanted love within the room so I will be as susceptible as doable. I knew that they’d impact the remainder of the solid, in addition to Paul Raci [who plays Brent Buell] — these are the one skilled actors in there. And we had a possibility to share what we all know and share it with individuals who could possibly be nice beneficiaries of it. And I do know that we’re beneficiaries of what they shared with us. I did this due to their work. I didn’t do that for myself. I did it for them, as a result of I wished to inform their tales and spotlight what good work is feasible to the people who find themselves incarcerated if you discover applications that show you how to and show you how to heal, whether or not it’s gardening or images or artwork.
Villarreal: Being on the entrance traces of the wildfires.
Domingo: Precisely. It’s wonderful to me. I really feel like every part is in live performance with each other. I really like the truth that their tales are being instructed, like, “Hey, do you know who’s fighting these wildfires, who is helping us out?” These are people that most individuals have put away and out of their thoughts. They usually’re truly those who’re on the market to do the work. And now we simply should be sure that they’re correctly compensated. And there’s a pathway once they get out.
Villarreal: How transformative is that have, particularly for you? You’re on this actual second in your profession, and to be working with those that strategy their work for such pure causes. How illuminating was that for you, remembering why you do what you do?
Domingo: What an awesome query. I can’t neglect, as a result of I believe I come from a really humble place, and I simply all the time imagine if you do nicely, you deal with others as nicely, and also you cross it on. It’s not only for me. It’s for all of us. I do know that I symbolize many communities and many individuals have poured into me so I will be precisely who I’m. And I don’t neglect that in any respect. I’ve established grants and awards and alternatives, manufacturing firms, as a result of I need to make a distinction. And I do know I make a distinction standing as an actor and a author and director, I could make a distinction as a producer and even simply as an individual. What we do daily is essential to me. I believe that was instilled in me by my dad and mom, which is to be sure that life was a lifetime of service. I attempt to encourage different individuals to know that that’s what it’s about. Particularly younger individuals attempting to navigate or people who find themselves me now who would love a profession like mine. I might say, “Hey, get that word ‘networking’ out of your system because it’s not about networking. It’s about getting to know people and looking after each other. And if you’re looking after somebody and they’re looking after you, you all win.”
Villarreal: One thing that’s loopy to me, and I hesitate to say this out loud with my editor inside earshot, however you shot this throughout 18 days in between “The Color Purple” and reshoots for “Rustin.” And I can’t think about that sort of schedule and depth. Was the tempo of that one thing thrilling and thrilling or scary?
Domingo: It was scary. It was scary as a result of I’d by no means performed something like that earlier than. I believe I’m a fairly measured, pragmatic individual. Normally, I wish to have a correct quantity of prep time, as a result of I really feel like that helps me do the work so I can truly be liberated within the work. However the schedule simply wouldn’t enable [it]. And it wasn’t even my suggestion. It was the suggestion of my director as a result of we obtained to a superb draft of the script after which they mentioned, “Well, when can we shoot it?” And I mentioned, “Well, that’s a whole other story. I don’t know, maybe next year.” They usually have been like, “Oh, man. Because we really think we can get this done and we can do it in a great way.” I mentioned, “I don’t know, man. I just, I don’t know what to tell you.” And Clarence Maclin, my co-star, actually smiled at me on the Zoom and mentioned, “Come on, man, we can do it.” And, so, with that kind of harmless “Come on, man, we can do it” and that invitation, I simply mentioned sure. I threw warning to the wind. I mentioned sure, let me. I’m not afraid of exhausting work and I’ll determine it out. And I’m not prepped the best way I believe I wish to be. However I additionally was up for the problem that perhaps this wanted to be completely different and it wanted to assist me course of my work and be part of the work another way, which is why I do know it’s most likely a few of my extra threadbare work — as a result of I leaned into that. I’m coping with males who’ve had the lived expertise, so due to this fact I can’t have any gloss or sheen over my efficiency like I most likely had with “Rustin” or “Color Purple,” the characters with extra dimension and polish, in a approach. And I assumed this requires extra grit and requires extra of me, to be trustworthy.
Villarreal: Within the movie, the group of actors are engaged on a time-traveling musical comedy, which actually appears to be like quite enjoyable.
Domingo: And insane.
Villarreal: And insane. So for those who have been offered with “Breakin’ the Mummy’s Code,” which can be only a good title, would your curiosity be piqued as Colman Domingo? And what character would you need to play? Would you need to be the Gladiator or Hamlet?
Domingo: I really feel like I might need to — I’ve all the time straddled my profession with being a personality actor and a number one man, and I really feel just like the character actors have much more enjoyable. Main males have a superb time too. You’ve obtained a distinct weight in your shoulders, however the characters who are available and hit it and do some wild stuff after which roll out, it’s sort of enjoyable too. So I’m unsure. I really feel like I wish to play each.
Villarreal: Don’t be grasping. You proceed to be a busy man. You’ve obtained the upcoming Tina Fey comedy, [a remake of “The Four Seasons”]. I do know that you’re taking part in Joe Jackson in Antoine Fuqua’s upcoming Michael Jackson biopic. What intrigued you about taking part in Joe and exploring that troubled legacy that he has?
Villarreal: Joe is such a formidable individual, and I used to be very privileged to play him. I wished to actually unpack: Who is that this man who actually gave up numerous himself, to be trustworthy, to pour into his kids as he acknowledged their musical expertise they usually wished to begin a gaggle? And the dialog was, “You want to start a group?” As a result of Joe was a musician as nicely. They usually have been like, “Come on, Dad, help us with that.” He mentioned,”I’ll train you that, however you need to have self-discipline.” And he went on that journey with them. He’s all the time somebody in our minds who’s sort of villainous not directly, form or type. However I believe that additionally I need to simply study the person totally and all his complexity, the place he got here from, being a blue-collar man, being a household man. There are issues that I all the time need to study with each character. One is how he liked his household and the way he protected his household. That’s the place I led with Joe, to search out all these instincts of this man, to make him a really advanced character and never kind of lean into any kind of tropes from the court docket of public opinion about him.
Villarreal: Do you’re feeling like that’s essentially the most you’ve remodeled bodily for a task?
Domingo: Sure, as a result of I’m carrying prosthetics, and I imagine my make-up might be tinted just a bit fairer than mine. And Joe had blue eyes. I look very completely different. I look very completely different.
Villarreal: Sending selfies to individuals should have been hanging.
Domingo: No, I used to be simply doing FaceTime to my husband now and again.
Villarreal: How about “Euphoria”? Is it again in manufacturing but? It was alleged to be.
Domingo: We’re again in manufacturing. I ended by the studio yesterday.
Villarreal: Inform me every part.
Domingo: I can’t inform you something.
Villarreal: You’ve learn a script lastly, although, proper?
Domingo: I can inform you that we’re in manufacturing, and it’s going to be implausible.
Villarreal: How was it to be again on set? You’ll be able to inform me that.
Domingo: It was lovely, truly. It was good. It was truly very calm and type. And I caught up with Z [Zendaya] for a bit. I caught up with Sam [Levinson, the show’s creator] and it was simply pretty. I felt like I went again into a beautiful workday.
Villarreal: Did you’re feeling such as you needed to reacquaint your self with the character, or did you need to rewatch? It’s been about three years.
Domingo: I truly wasn’t on but, so I simply popped in to say, “hi.” We’ve actually been a household, and it’s enjoyable to pop in and test on my household when the cameras are up.
Villarreal: As a result of proper after you wrap on that’s if you work begin work by yourself movie, “Scandalous,” proper, with Sydney [Sweeney]?
Domingo: Sure. However earlier than that, I do a film with Steven Spielberg.
Villarreal: What the heck?
Domingo: Yeah. I obtained to shoot this film with Steven Spielberg, and it’s a ravishing solid — Emily Blunt and Colin Firth.
Villarreal: And also you’re not retaining a journal weekly?
Domingo: No, I’m too current. I really feel like I simply need to be within the current.
Villarreal: I need to have your thoughts, as a result of I really feel like I might neglect every part in, like, two years.
Domingo I believe perhaps that’s additionally my problem. I really feel like individuals all the time need to doc it. I really feel like I similar to being in it. I wish to be in it.
Villarreal: Effectively, such a vital element to your job has develop into the red-carpet aspect and, Colman, the best way you present out on pink carpet constantly — among the finest dressed round. That’s why I used to be nervous coming right here immediately. I used to be like, “I won’t even try.”
Domingo: Take a look at me, I’m carrying easy … It’s black denim and a few Oxfords and a easy shirt.
Villarreal: Take a look at the best way you put on black and the best way I put on black. However you talked earlier about being an introvert and a shy child. What has this aspect to the job unlocked for you? Do you see it as working along with the best way you current your self onscreen, or is it a very completely different aspect of your creativity?
Domingo: It’s completely along with it as a result of I really feel prefer it’s all storytelling. I believe it’s a solution to specific your self. I grew up carrying my older brother’s and older sister’s hand-me-down garments. So I believe that there was one thing about that, that when I obtained my first job at McDonald’s and I wished to purchase my very own issues, I [thought]: “What is my sense of style? How do I wear clothes? How does this body feel out in the spaces?” For me, it’s a part of that dressing up that introvert [so he] can inform a narrative along with his physique.
Villarreal: What was that first merchandise of clothes with that McDonald’s paycheck that basically had you want, “I got this.”
Domingo: Two-tone denims. Oh, yeah, as a result of they have been scorching then. We’re speaking concerning the ’80s. I keep in mind they have been stone wash on one aspect and blue on the opposite.
Villarreal: Good. You are able to do that once more. Have you ever began occupied with —
Domingo: Perhaps I’ll rock one thing like that for the Met Gala.
Villarreal: OK, I used to be going to ask you [about that]. You’re co-chair. They only introduced the theme. You need to speak somewhat bit about being part of this and the theme itself?
Domingo: Sure, “Superfine: Tailoring Black [Style].” It’s implausible. It’s actually wanting on the historical past of Black male tailoring, which is superior. It’s by no means been performed earlier than and I’m simply very excited. I’m enthusiastic about all of it. I’m working proper now with Valentino; I’m a home ambassador for Valentino, so Alessandro [Michele, the creative director] goes to design one thing actually particular for me to put on. I really feel like I need to do a pair outfits, and we’ll see what occurs.
Villarreal: Have you ever began occupied with the story or emotion you need to evoke along with your red-carpet [look] for Oscars?
Domingo: I’ve, truly. I thought of a colour. I gained’t inform you the colour since you’d be stunned. However one thing about it, I simply can’t cease occupied with. I’m attempting to consider historical past. There’s so many moments, iconic moments in historical past — it could possibly be like 18th century London or it may be just like the Forties and zoot swimsuit or it may be like some Dapper Dan fashion or one thing like that. However I really feel like I need it to symbolize many individuals and plenty of issues. As a result of even once I went to the Met Gala final yr for the primary time, I referenced André Leon Talley and Chadwick Boseman. I all the time need to convey — perhaps that’s it — I all the time wish to convey different individuals with me.
Villarreal: You’ll be able to convey me.
Domingo: That is my lesson for shy individuals. In case you assume there’s extra individuals with you than simply you, then it’s not about you anymore. Maya Angelou says one thing like that — it’s not simply me, it’s all my ancestors, all these different individuals giving me power and braveness to talk.
Villarreal: Effectively, now I’m actually wanting ahead to what you’re going to ship on that pink carpet.
Domingo: It’s going to serve.